Henry Big Boy .44 Magnum Journal - Fun with the ultimate plinking cannon

Monday, November 30, 2009

Sighting in the Marble Arms peep sight in the rain

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A NASTY WET DAY AT THE RANGE

What a lousy day to take vacation time to go shooting. I arrived at the range at 11:00 and it just began to drizzle. By 2:00 when I left it was dark and pouring. The only thing that wasn't an issue was the wind. There wasn't any. I did meet some really friendly shooters today, and 3 guys came over to my bench at different times complimenting me on the "nice looking rifle". Those brass rifles really are attention getters.

My goal today was to try out the newly installed Marble Arms peep sight and some new loads. I also needed to fire a bunch of ammo to free up some brass for new loads I've been wanting to try out. One of the guys who came over to my bench and commented on the Henry asked me how I liked the peep sight. We were joking about it because it was getting so dark that through the rain, it was difficult to see the bulls-eye at 50 yards. "It's tough getting old and shooting through bifocals." The peep site helps, but in time he said he had to change over to a scope. I told him that this is my plinking cannon, and that I don't shoot over 100 yards. The peep sight maintains that Civil War look that I like, and the 44magnum with the peep sight installed is a perfect combination. I doubt most people will shoot over 100 yards with this caliber, though it is possible. In my opinion 100 yards is the maximum distance anyone is going to want to shoot most calibers without a scope (unless they have fantastic eyesight), so I highly recommend the 44mag/peep sight combo for 50-100 yard shooting.

THE MARBLE ARMS PEEP SIGHT
The peep sight had both pros and cons. On the positive side, the sight worked great. I used my LaserLyte green laser to get the sight on paper. At 50 yards I was shooting about 6" low and slightly to the right. I held the rifle steady and put the front sight back on the bulls-eye. Then carefully reaching for the adjustment knobs, I rotated them until the sight was over the holes I had put in the target. What that does is basically saying, "OK, I'm not hitting the bulls-eye, but instead my bullets are hitting in this other spot. That spot will now become my new bulls-eye." You then adjust your sights instead of the barrel to land on the holes where you missed. Does that makes sense? If not, here's a diagram I drew and posted. CLICK HERE. The next shot was almost right on, and with a few more clicks I was hitting the X-ring. The one thing nice about a peep sight is that you can forget about the rear sight. I simply cover the target with the front sight ball and that's it. No aligning front and rear sights. It seems almost like magic; like it shouldn't work. It does, and I received some compliments on my groups.

On the negative side, the sight is more vulnerable to damage than the standard iron sights. It's projecting out perpendicular to your receiver, so I had to be careful when I turned over the rifle to load cartridges into the loading tube. The second bad thing is that I had to learn to relocate my right hand. The rear sight is very close to the right thumb, so when I pull the trigger and the rifle recoils, the sight comes back and its sharp left edge cut a small notch into the inner side of my right thumb. I learned to adjust my hand position quickly after letting that happen a few times. All in all, the sight worked great and there's no way I'll return to the stock sights. I will be contacting Marble Arms to request that they round out that edge.

Here some reloading results:
  1. The Speer 210 gr Gold Dot hollow point w/21gr AA No.9 shot the best groups. The recoil was substantial, even with a starting load.
  2. Next best was a lead semi-wadcutter that Roger gave me. It was a light load with little recoil, but still quite accurate.
  3. Third best was the 265gr Hornady w/ 1.2cc or AA No. 9. I've always been happy with the results of this combination, but I was amazed that the other two loads shot even better.
I had 4 other loads to test out, but it began raining so hard and it became so dark that I didn't bother. That will give me something to do next time. Oh well, I now have about 150 empty cases to have fun with. One last thought. A paper plate works just as well as a $1.25 chipping target at 50 yards. The holes from a 44mag are easy to see with a pair of binoculars. Save the expensive targets for your 22 and 17 caliber shooting.

9 comments:

durko58 said...

Hi Bob,
I'm considering a peep sight for both my Big Boy and Golden Boy rifles. I do like the marble sights on your gun but the price was a bit steep for my budget. Besides, you have to drill into the receiver which bumps up the cost unless you have machinist capabilities which I don't lol. The sights I'm looking at are from Skinner. All you have to do is tap the old buckhorn out and tap in the new peep sight. They even have a brass sight to compliment the aesthetics of the original brass components. The blue steel sight is $48.00 while the brass sight a buck higher. Here's the link.
Sincerely,
Joe Durkin
http://www.skinnersights.com/henry_rifles_18.html

brshooting said...

Thanks Joe. The Marble peep sight has been taking a chunk of flesh out of my right thumb when the .44 mag recoils, so I've been considering removing the sight and replacing it with the stock iron sight. This looks like an interesting option because I really like the peep sight. As you said, it doesn't require drilling, so you won't have a hole in your brass like I now do. Let me know if you buy it and what you think. If you send me a photo I'll post it. Thanks for the heads up.

durko58 said...

Well, I was gonna ask my son to get the Skinner sights as a Christmas gift since I need two, one for the Big boy and one for the Golden Boy. I'll let you know when they're installed but prob after Christmas. I have reviewed some comments about the sight and everything looks positive. Here's a link to a thread where one fellow said it really tightened up his groups on the Big Boy.
Sincerely,
Joe Durkin
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?topic=179054.0

brshooting said...

I'm getting a couple of those Skinner sights to test out. Right now my 44 Mag is at the gunsmith who is plugging the screw hole with a brass screw. He said it should almost disappear. I'm getting rid of the Marble peep sight. The edges are too sharp and it is expended all the way up and keep loosening up. Time to try something simpler. I'll let you know when I get it and how it works.

durko58 said...

Trial and error I guess Bob. I was really considering the Marble sights too because they looked so authentic on your gun. I really didn't want to drill any holes though into the brass or barrel. I just kept researching with a bit of patients and stumbled upon the Skinners on that forum link. When I saw that Mr. Imperato endorsed them it was a no brainer. Yea, let me know how they work out. I think those brass ones will really add a nice accent to the Henry Big and Golden Boy. I won't get mine installed until the Christmas holidays. TTFN Bob and best of luck when you get your new sights.
Sincerely,
Joe Durkin

durko58 said...

Hi Bob,
I came across two youtube videos showing the installation of the Skinner sights on a Henry as well as how they perform. Thought I'd pass it along to you.
Joe Durkin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0dFKILkVi4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72pBXQVgs_Y

brshooting said...

Thanks Joe!

Anonymous said...

Hi Bob,

Great Blog. I was wondering if you think the Marbles Peep would work well on a Henry Big Boy 357; it seems that would effectively eliminate the kick issue. I have one on a Henry Frontier and it works great (except for the windage knob on the right - should have been on the left or even configurable).

Thanks

brshooting said...

Thanks. Glad you're enjoying the blog. I recommend the Skinner peep sight over the Marbles. It's posted at the top of this page. It's out of the way, close to the rifle so you don't have to worry about snagging or breaking it off. Once adjusted it stays put. It looks good and no drilling is required. I am much happier with it than with Marble's sight. The Marble sight kept loosening up and require readjustment. It also gouged my thumb, which was the main reason I got rid of it. The company offered to take it back and round it out, but I wanted to test out what you would be buying and not a customized sight. That's my opinion. Take it for what it's worth. Let me know how you make out, what you decide to do and if you send me a photo I'll be happy to post it.